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Marriage Vote: ‘Yes’ Wins

Nov 15, 2017

After a long, protracted and often bitter few months of debate, electioneering and controversy, the vote is finally now in: the “Yes” vote has won. The results have just been released, and the percentages are these; 62% yes and 38% no. This is a tremendous disappointment in so many ways.

Of course it is a non-binding vote, but the activists already are pushing their homosexual marriage bills. Many of the bills, such as Liberal senator Dean Smith’s bill, will offer basically no protections at all for religious freedom, freedom of conscience, and freedom of speech for those who still believe marriage is between a man and a woman.

Thankfully Victorian Liberal Senator James Paterson issued a media release on Monday offering an alternative bill that would seek to safeguard many of these various freedoms. It said:

“I’ve long believed that same sex couples deserve the freedom to marry, just like every other Australian. That’s why I was proud to vote ‘Yes’ in the same sex marriage postal survey, and have consistently argued in favour of changing the law since I was first publicly asked about the issue in June 2011.
“I’ve never believed that allowing same sex couples to marry needs to come at the expense of the freedoms of other Australians. I have always argued that parliament is capable of ensuring there are no negative consequences for anyone else from allowing gay Australians to marry. Allowing same sex couples to marry is not mutually exclusive with preserving our freedoms, with the right bill.
“Today I’ve released a draft bill that achieves these two important objectives. It draws on the work of the Senate select committee inquiry into same sex marriage, which I was a member of.

The bill:
-Expands the definition of marriage to include same sex couples, granting them the freedom to marry for the first time in Australia.
-Ensures ministers of religion and celebrants who hold genuine belief in the traditional definition of marriage have a right to refuse to solemnise a same sex wedding.
-Establishes a limited right of conscientious objection, to ensure no one is forced to participate in a same sex wedding against their sincerely held beliefs.
-Protects freedom of speech so that Australians can discuss their view of marriage without fear of legal penalties.
-Enacts a narrow anti-detriment clause that prevents governments and their agencies from taking adverse action against someone with a traditional view of marriage. It does not apply to non-government organisations, businesses, or individuals, preserving freedom of association.
-Guarantees parents’ right to choose their children’s’ education by allowing them to opt-out of classes that conflict with their values.

“These protections are important because it should be possible for Australians with different values to live harmoniously alongside each other. All Australians should be able to live their lives according to their own values. No group should impose their values on another group.
“If the parliament opts for a narrower bill with fewer protections, I fear we will see some Australians seek to impose their values on others, with court cases and other legal mechanisms. No one should want to see the messy court cases that have occurred after same sex marriage was legalised in other countries.
“This bill is not a reason to delay legislating same sex marriage. If a ‘Yes’ result is confirmed this week, this bill could be passed by the parliament as quickly as any other bill. I believe the parliament should do so before Christmas, with additional sitting weeks if necessary.”

This is a big improvement on the various other bills. Of course I must say that I myself can never agree to call a sexual union between two men or two women “marriage”. It is not. It is fake marriage. It is exactly what Abraham Lincoln once talked about: “How many legs does a dog have if you call his tail a leg? Four. Saying that a tail is a leg doesn’t make it a leg.”

No bill has yet been accepted or voted on. So we are simply in the next round of lobbying, debating, making our case, and so on. The days ahead will continue to be intense and hardcore. Now is not the time to give up or go on vacation. Much work still remains to be done.

So the fight continues. But we must acknowledge all those who did so much hard work and so much praying over the past few months. They rightly deserve a mighty round of applause. And while singling out a few names here would be a disservice to all the others, still, let me do so nonetheless.

One public face of the campaign was that of Lyle Shelton of the ACL. Being so public, he received his fair share of abuse. It has not been easy on him and his family during this period. So thank you Lyle. You are a champ, as are so many others.

And on the prayer side of things there would be numerous saints to thank, but let me mention just one. Warwick Marsh of the Fatherhood Foundation has for decades known of the value of prayer and intercession. He has helped to lead the charge here with lengthy periods of prayer and fasting.

In sum, all your efforts were not in vain, and we must continue to stand up for what is right, even if the majority sides against us. When it comes to doing the right thing, one man plus God is still a majority, and we must keep standing strong. Four quotes from Margaret Thatcher may well be of some help here:

“You may have to fight a battle more than once to win it.”

“Don’t follow the crowd, let the crowd follow you.”

“I am in politics because of the conflict between good and evil, and I believe that in the end good will triumph.”

“First you win the argument, then you win the vote.”

In this case it seems we did not first win the argument. Politics always flows downstream from the culture. So to have success at the ballot box you must first target the culture. We have much more work to do in this regard. And this can only be done when we commit ourselves to the long haul.

Back in 1996 Robert Bork said some important words about all this, and we must pay careful attention to them:

Elections are important not only because of the policies adopted and laws enacted but as symbolic victories for one set of values or the other. But it is well to remember the limits of politics. The political nation is not the same as the cultural nation; the two have different leaders and very different views of the world. Even when conservative political leaders have the votes, liberal cultural leaders operate and exercise influence where votes do not count. However many political victories conservatives may produce, they cannot attack modern liberalism in its fortresses. If conservatives come to control the White House and both Houses of Congress, there will be very little change in Hollywood, the network evening news, universities, church bureaucracies, the New York Times, or the Washington Post. Institutions that are overwhelmingly left-liberal (89 percent of journalists voted for Bill Clinton in 1992) will continue to misinform the public and distort public discourse. The obscenities of popular entertainment will often be protected by the courts. The tyrannies of political correctness and multiculturalism will not be ejected from the universities by any number of conservative victories at the polls. Modern liberals captured the government and its bureaucracies because they captured the culture. Conservative political victories will always be tenuous and fragile unless conservatives recapture the culture…. This is at bottom a moral and spiritual struggle.

Yes it sure is. In sum, and speaking as a Christian, this is indeed a rather sad day. But it is not the end of all things. It is simply the beginning. The battles will continue, but we all know who ultimately wins the war. So with the view of eternity in mind, we keep on fighting. We must never give up.

We must keep on keeping on, so that we can say with the Apostle Paul:

“I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.” 2 Timothy 4:7

And again: “Fight the good fight of faith.” 1 Timothy 6:12

senatorpaterson.com.au/2017/11/13/release-of-draft-bill-to-legalise-same-sex-marriage-and-preserve-freedoms/

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49 Responses to Marriage Vote: ‘Yes’ Wins

  • So sad 🙁

  • Thanks Bill,
    Deeply concerning result.
    If Turnbull thinks this SSM survey will improve his position he is naive. I will abandon the liberal party next election. His has trashed conservative values and the Nation is damaged.
    Sincere thanks to you. ACL , marriage alliance, David van Gend and countless courageous others who have fought the good fight,
    Best regards philip
    Cory Bernardi may be our last hope in protecting our Christian values. Hope he runs a solid candidate in Nsw for the senate

  • “Politics always flows downstream from the culture.” Yes but culture is flowing down from the media. It was always going to be an uphill battle when media like the ABC simply refused to allow any real debate and have made out for well over a decade now that there are no arguments against the redefinition of marriage. This is a very sad day for our culture when we have become so morally stupid that we can’t tell the difference between a sexually functional relationship and a sexually dysfunctional one. When blood relationships now mean little or nothing. Whether the less than three percent of the population were truly disenfranchised by a correct definition of marriage is debatable but what we have now is very clearly over a third of the population disenfranchised. Not only that but we have all the fundamentals in place for more loss of human rights including the very fundamental parental rights. Whether a reasonable bill to protect human rights is put in place is the battle now but the evidence is that whatever protections are put in place these will be completely unwound by the now completely debauched and corrupted Labor Party.

  • The percentage “Yes” vote of the states (and territories) exactly matches their corresponding wickedness. Lo and behold, Canberra is the clear cesspool of Australia. NSW is the most sane (not that that a majority “Yes” is much of a mark of sanity.
    And will we ever know how many of these transparent letters were ditched when they revealed a “No” vote when shone with a light? Nup.
    Evangelism time…

  • Thanks Bill.
    Yes it is a very sad day for Australia. The bar has just been lifetd higher in the race. But the height is not end, it is the level of difficulty that we face.Christ faced his passion- a very diffcult time but his passion death and resurrection were together an almighty victory over sin and Satan. Whatever the challenges, we fight on with the conviction that we should not fear.

  • Click here to urge your local federal MP and senators to protect your freedoms in any parliamentary vote.

    www.marriagealliance.com.au/tell_your_mps_protect_our_freedoms?utm_campaign=171115_maa&utm_medium=email&utm_source=marriage

  • G’day Bill,

    Goodonya and thanks to you for your constant encouragement. I learned of the result, and immediately went to you. I don’t dare see the gloating on their ABC

    It looks like we are ‘on the wrong side of history’, but so be it. I’d rather be on the right side of eternity.

    Thanks

    Andrew Campbell
    Stanborough

  • Well, its written GOD/jesus warned us in revelations that there will be a great falling away and the return of sodom and Gomorra. God the father will not bless this nation of Australia because of her wickedness. We as a nation have gone too far we are a reprobate nation and my son who’s 9 will have to pick up the mess the sodomites are left us!!–(Lev 20:13 KJV) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. —-A brief history of the sodomites!-
    Rome – Homosexuality was also rampant in Rome. Emperors like Nero were sodomites and they hated the Christians and put many of them to death. According to Edward Gibbon in his “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” that of all the 15 emperors except Claudius were involved in Sodomy. Rome began a moral slide in the second century B.C. by adapting the ways of ancient Greece concerning sodomy and the adulterating of marriage. It was the Christians who brought back the seriousness of marriage. Rome was never able to free itself from sexual debauchery and eventually was conquered.

    China – China has had a long history of homosexuality among its people and because of such a long standing practice God judged them and in 1948 they became a communist nation losing their freedoms.

    Japan – Homosexuality flourished among the Japanese culture for centuries. Many Buddhist Monks took male lovers to themselves.

    Celts – Aristotle stated that the Celts were also heavily into homosexuality. The Celts history goes back to about 1200 B.C.

    American Indians – Homosexuality was also rampant among the American Indian with witnesses going back as far as 1776…..1 Cor 6:9-11 KJV) Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, {10} Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. {11} And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

  • We in America know this disappointment. I’ve given it consideration that seeing as the church has the same rate of fornication & divorce as the world…I am not entirely surprised that God has not listened to our prayers – as though throwing our own sin back in our face. The old Rock & the Hard Place: If we judge it, and do not live up to the righteousness we prescribe for others – then He will judge us.

  • You hit the nail on the Head Bill. Out of all the sins listed, homosexuality takes center stage. What is the one sin which is being focused on and even endorsed by the people of this world? It is homosexuality. On every TV show they slip in a sodomite relationship. The NRL and the AFL now endorse this filthy lifestyle. A politician cannot even take office here in the Australia unless they embrace homosexuality. Homosexual marriage is being accepted in many countries and the rest will follow. They are only 2% of the population and yet they are determining the path for the other 98%. Through all of this, the church has remained absolutely quiet and that is because this sin must continue to bellow forth until the time God has appointed to destroy this world and all that is evil.

  • How many of the YES voters understood that their vote was to open marriage as a license to adopt and or through IVF and surrogacy hand children to LGBTIQ which includes multiple partners and queers?
    We are on trial not those who are corrupt as to allow corruption paints us with the same brush.
    I agree, the fight has just begun and I know how it will end – refer to Sodom and Gomorrah.
    John Abbott

  • In the last days before Christ returns Many People Will Stop Loving God
    Prophetic words from The Bible
    2 Timothy 3
    Remember this: There are some terrible times coming in the last days. 2 People will love only themselves and money. They will be proud and boast about themselves. They will abuse others with insults. They will not obey their parents. They will be ungrateful and against all that is pleasing to God. 3 They will have no love for others and will refuse to forgive anyone. They will talk about others to hurt them and will have no self-control. They will be cruel and hate what is good. 4 People will turn against their friends. They will do foolish things without thinking and will be so proud of themselves. Instead of loving God, they will love pleasure. 5 They will go on pretending to be devoted to God, but they will refuse to let that “devotion” change the way they live. Stay away from these people!
    In the last days before Christ returns 61.6% Australians freely chose YES to Stop Loving God’s Laws for marriage and God’s ways = Stop Loving God

  • Oh dear, how sad, how depressing. Now 62 percent of Aussies are in clear and present danger of ending up in Hell, unless they repent of this egregious sin. They have abandoned Jesus and his clear teaching, hence they mock God and trample the Son of God underfoot. Unbelievable!

  • 1 Peter 4:17-19 (NKJV)
    17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
    18 Now “If the righteous one is scarcely saved, Where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?”
    19 Therefore let those who suffer according to the will of God commit their souls to Him in doing good, as to a faithful Creator.

    Psalm 9:17 (NKJV)
    The wicked shall be turned into hell, And all the nations that forget God.

    Revelation 22:11-16 (NIV)
    11 Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy.”
    12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.
    13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
    14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.
    15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
    16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”

    2 Chronicles 7:14 (NKJV)
    14 if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

    2 Chronicles 16:9 (NKJV)
    For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show Himself strong on behalf of those whose heart is loyal to Him. In this you have done foolishly; therefore from now on you shall have wars.”

  • I really feel sorry for the kids who will not get a say in all of this.

  • Indeed a very sad day in the history of fair dinkum Aussies. I Agree with Phil Browne above, in that I am also done with the Liberals. Step up forward Cory Bernardi. The Conservative party needs your leadership. Let’s encourage Tony Abbott to step up as well, he makes more sense then any one else left in our nation’s leadership. Referring to his speech given in London recently and printed in full in the latest Newsweekly.
    Bill Heggers

  • YOU are a champ too Bill. We are very sad but we are not defeated. We have the last page of the Bible.

  • It is a bit diffiicult to campaing against it when the media is for it as is most of the parliament. Our thanks to the 35% who voted no. The people who didn’t vote at all have let us down. The Churches were not that forthcoming. I wonder how many “good Catholics” voted for it.

  • It’s a strange feeling knowing that you have very little in common with the great majority of Australians. We Christians have more in common with Muslims and other foreigners than the modern white pagans. God’s judgement on this country will be severe.

  • For those writing to their local MP, the parliament cannot use the Dean Smith Bill because it says that celebrants will be presiding over a union of two people to the EXCLUSION OF ALL OTHERS, voluntarily entered into for life.

    ONE. Dennis Altman, a homosexual, and lecturer at Latrobe uni said on a Compass programme discussing SSM that homosexuals do not aspire to monogamy, so there will be no exclusion of all others.

    TWO. Research by homosexuals indicate that 76% of all relationships have others outside of it involved in sexual liaison so again, there will be no exclusion of all others.

    THREE. In a programme shown on SBS about homosexual relationships in the UK, it focussed on two homosexual living together where one of them went to the local homosexual sauna bath every Thursday evening to have sex with as many other men as possible so again, there will be no exclusion of all others.

    FOUR. Again the research shows that the average length of a homosexual relationship is two years so there will not be any entering into marriage for life.

    If they go with the Dean Smith Bill they have to remove this clause and if they don’t they will totally trash the meaning of marriage.

  • God bless you Bill, for your encouragement to followers of Jesus and those who honour God’s values, on this sad day. We thank God for you.
    Balfour family

  • While not unexpected – the media was trumpeting a YES victory the entire campaign, the outcome is still shattering. Think it will take at least a day or two to digest it. In 1933 Germans voted for Hitler, in 2017 Australians voted for homosexual ‘marriage’. Despite the persecution that the former unleashed, Christianity survived. Odds are the latter will unleash persecution, but Christianity will survive. In the East such persecution has allow the church to explode, and at least one Chinese church leader has said that he’s praying that Australia (the West?) will enjoy the same persecution they do i.e. can enjoy the same blessings they do. A lot of us are quite happy with the comfortable arrangement that existed ’til now. The result does rather emphasise the whole alien in an alien land though.

  • Thanks Bill,
    For all of your wonderful work, may JESUS continually bless and guide you in all you do. Bill I see a lot of people are feeling sad because of today’s result (yes it is not good) but I take strength from JESUS words which clearly states that in the last days it will be as ‘THE DAYS OF NOAH’ and the coming of the SON OF MAN (JESUS). So I rejoice in his glory and his presence knowing that our saviour and soon coming KING is in full control. We as the body of CHRIST will/should pray for every yes voter and may our GOD bring them to repentance before they see him face to face because the debate and all arguments will stop and fall short at his feet. ‘Every knee will bow and every tongue confess’ willing or unwilling so take heart and look up our redemption draweth very, very nigh.
    Keep up the GOOD GOOD FIGHT. LOVE IN JESUS.

  • Hello, thank you for this post. It’s a tough journey ahead but continue pressing on for the glory of God.

  • Folks, it is a sad day in Australia. While most of the media and a significant number of politicians and some of the CEOs support this, the blame needs to be shared amongst the 61.6% of Australians who have chosen this. Here in New Zealand, I recall the politician’s vote was 77 MPs out of 121, or 63.6%.

    I am reminded reminded by the words of Jesus in Matthew 7:13 – 14:

    13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

    It is an uncomfortable fact that many who go by the way that leads to destruction, although I hope that many people see the path to redemption before they die; I hope in this possibility because our Lord didn’t say that many will go to destruction , instead many are going in the way that leads to destruction. A small difference, but one that compliments the command of the Great Commission that Jesus gave. Having said that, verse 14 is alarming in its implications.

    I recommend we all remind ourselves of two things: One, an excellent exposition of Revelation 20:11 – 15 by Paul Washer:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FOKbtXq-y0

    and two that we should all be engaged in personal evangelism. One way to do this is through Gospel Outreach: gospel-outreach.org/au.

  • What a great article! Thank you.

  • You know it is a mess when we have a “delighted” ‘Yes’ supporting Liberal member drafting a freedom protections bill.

    twitter.com/SenPaterson/status/930609922617761792

    * Very Loud Alarm Bells *

  • Thanks guys. Here are some further spiritual reflections on the ‘yes’ vote:

    billmuehlenberg.com/2017/11/15/christian-reflections-homosexual-marriage-vote/

  • Yes God bless you Bill and many others too who have fought strong and hard and have encouraged us all to stand strong too. Yes we must keep fighting as it is not over yet. There have been some supernatural wins for the NO Vote in Parliament over the years, so it can happen again! We must still play our part but it is God’s battle and HE alone will have the last say! This may be a “defeat”, but I am sure He wants to come through with a bigger Victory down the track! So…rejoice and be glad as this is the day that the Lotd has made!! Use every opportunity to give All the Glory to God and thank and praise Him alone in and for ALL circumstances (Eph 5:20). Also use every opportunity to to share the love of Jesus and His saving message with others too. Isaiah 55:12

  • Yes Bill, in some ways it’s a sad day but I was encouraged to see that nearly 2 out of 5 Australians voted NO. I don’t think that we have that proportion attending church services regularly. Hence I see that Judaeo-Christian values are still influencing millions of Australians.
    The verse that came to me was Mark 13:31 where Jesus said, “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.”

  • It is indeed a sad day. I am trying not to feel angry. But all great comments and we will live to fight another day unless Jesus come back. But those of us who been in the trenches so to speak for a long time like you and me are a bit battle weary! I could hardly believe that Anglican priest in Gosford (NSW) getting really excited about the result. And a “lesbian Christian” responding. I suppose she might be same sex attracted but hopefully she is celibate or else she is very confused. As an MP I used to get letters from “homosexual Christians” occasionally attacking me for my well known views. It was always hard to respond. Loving the sinner but hating the sin was the answer but it was not that simple. Anyway my former colleagues and friends Tony Abbott, Kevin Andrews. Eric Abetz and others have responded appropriately and cautiously. Let’s try an be graceful in defeat.

  • Just remember, 48.5% of Australians who were eligible said YES, 50.5% didn’t say YES.
    Hardly a ringing endorsement.

  • As a G-d fearing Jewess, if many Australians think that The Almighty will bestow blessing upon this country after what it did today, I fear they are very misguided. G-d help us all!

  • Thanks for your kind words regarding leading prayer for the nation. I will conitiue to Call for prayer. It is revival or bust at the moment!!!

  • I will do my best not to fly Qantas again. I am appalled how this airline the Australian carrier has been manipulated by a gay man and the useless Board does nothing,
    Yes Shoshanna, I totally agree. A nation cannot thumb their collective noses at God and stupidity think nothing changes. Turnbull and shorten are also culpable and under judgement , best regards Phil

  • Thanks for this Bill. I am praying and standing with you.

  • Great job Warwick. Hugely respected for your courage and commitment,
    Regards Phil
    PS. We must pray Mark Latham into the Kingdom of God.

  • Thanks Shoshanna, of course you are right, however, “we” can change, the question is, will “we” change, as you would be aware, only a remnant will be saved. Many times God speaks of the “remnant” of Israel being saved., the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob [Israel]
    Ref: Isaiah 11:11 Jeremiah 15:11 Joel 2:32 Romans 9:27 Romans 11:15 and many more…

    Yes I feel sick to my stomach, to see our once Christian country go down the gutter, I am finding it hard to come to grips with the fact that so many of “us” have turned our back’s on The Almighty, that we have rejected His laws and made a mockery of our beliefs.
    Looking on the bright side, it would seem as though we now know the wheat from the tares, it will be left to the Reaper to weed out the tares and cast them into the eternal fire.

    I pray that our prayers will be heard and there will be a seeking of forgiveness and repentance by all those that have chosen to disobey, and that Almighty God will forgive their sin and heal our land.

    Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
    Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
    Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

  • Correction should be Romans 11:5
    Rom 11:5  Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 

  • My husband and i live overseas – have done for 7 years and both of us enrolled to vote as overseas Australians – I was able to vote in the Marriage Vote – but for some unknown reason my husband’s name was removed from the electoral roll – without notification. He only found out after phoning – because of this he was unable to vote.
    I wonder how many other overseas Aussies this happened to, who wanted to vote.
    SHAME on all those supporting SSM as they are condemning the homosexuals & lesbians to an eternity in hell – because they have chosen to substitute the Truth for the LIE of homosexuals and lesbians.

  • Sad sad sad for the true real Australians. . What truth will future generations know about commitment, honour, respect and understanding of marriage as ONE man with ONE wife ALL FOR LIFE.

  • Thank-you so much Bill .
    A group called Citizensgo has an online Petition resource – could you get one up for us Bill as I am sure all your subscribers plus more would sign it. Citizensgo has successfully Petitioned Governments around the world regarding many important issues and have been very successful.

  • Very disappointing Bill.

    But we press on!

  • This result is not the outcome of a united country. A one third, two third outcome is very much a divided result, sure 50% plus one is fine when voting for a leader because they can be removed at the next election if that is the desire. But, life changing decisions like redefining marriage are long-lasting. I believe such issues as this, the Canadian split, the republic, or the Scottish exit ought to have a majority of maybe as high as 80% so as to carry the overwhelming feeling of the population. You will notice I did not mention Brexit, after all, if such a bar had been set when the Common Market was introduced the Brexit vote would not have been required a generation later.

  • Although the result is a disappointment, but it was not surprising. I did vote no on the issue-although I did consider abstaining- on a very costly and distracting subject to take the heat off the swamp in Canberra. This issue from go-to-whoa from the very start had extremely biased articles and debates, shunning/shaming people who did not favour of homosexual marriage-yes,that even includes homosexuals who said no.

    To all these people who believe that its going to happen overnight; you popped the champagne way too early.The scope of the marriage power conferred by sec. 51 (xxi) of the Constitution is to be determined by reference to what falls within the conception of marriage in the Constitution, not by reference to what the Parliament deems to be, or to be within, that conception.Remember, this was a non-binding vote. Formal plebiscites are under the direction of the Australian Electoral Commission, not the Bureau of Statistics.

    Finally-to the SJW, virtue signalling mobs. What would you do if the postal survey is deemed void ab initio by the law of the land? The LGBT and cheer squad are just useful pawns to surrender their individual freedoms and liberties away to the state.Once they gain power, you will be the first to be given “special privileges” to state services.

  • The Uluru Bark Petition presented to parliament says:
    “The heart of the Petition states that marriage between man and woman is, and has always been, sacred to the oldest living culture on earth. The Petition adds that fathers and mothers – who are deeply honored in Aboriginal culture – also form the “foundation of our families, clans and systems, and pass down our teachings, our culture, our traditions, from generation to generation.”

    The Indigenous Elders who carried this Petition forward, including Auntie Yumina Anyupa Ken and Uncle Pepaii Carol from Ernabella, respect all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander groups and peoples and acknowledge that they do not speak for the entirety of their country or language groups.

    However, in putting this Petition forward, we recognise and we’re declaring that, the union between man and women is deeply a part of our ancient and continuing culture across all of our communities, and that our Fathers and Mothers provide the foundation for those communities.
    WE now call upon our communities to stand with us as one Indigenous Australia to honour and protect one of our ancient and continuing values.”

    The Qld Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act 2003, protects the cuultural heritage of our indigenous population.Principles underlying Act’s main purpose
    “the recognition, protection and conservation of Aboriginal cultural heritage should be based on respect for Aboriginal knowledge, culture and traditional practices;
    Other sates have similar laws. UNESCO says something similar.
    Australia is a signatory to the UNESCO convention on the Protection of Cultural Heritage.
    “Cultural heritage is the legacy of physical artefacts and intangible attributes of a group or society that are inherited from past generations, maintained in the present and bestowed for the benefit of future generations
    Safeguarding intangible heritage is the protection of cultural identities and therefore the cultural diversity of humankind.  Intangible Heritage includes but not limited to traditional festivals, oral traditions, oral epics, customs, ways of life, traditional crafts, etc.  ”

    Maybe these people have a High Court case if any law on SSM seek to desacralise these beliefs, both as part of the Christian as well as Aboriginal Heritage. Any pro-bono lawyers out there want to run a case?

  • I see that Magda Subansky uses the throwaway line’ Thank God’. Has she no idea of the insult she is throwing in the face of Almightly God. The first chapter of Romans should be compulsory reading for these Godless hordes who face a frightening future. We as born again ones need to be bold and not hide our affiliation with the Lord Jesus Christ and His precious Word. May the Lord have mercy on Australia.

  • Thank you Bill for your leadership on this issue. We were in the back blocks of Northern Sulawesi where we have no internet access when we got the news. It was quite a shock that Australia has so decidedly chosen to reject the Biblical and moral foundations of our society. The work of you, Lyle Shelton, Warick Marsh and others is not in vain. The saints need men and women on the front line to lead the charge against sin, wickedness and immorality. May God give you the grace and the strength to continue the battle. There are many who stand with you. Thank you for being one of the leaders of the “small remnant.” Isaiah 1:9 “Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.”

  • Thanks for this article Bill.

    I’d be interested to know your thoughts about Opposition Leader Bill Shorten’s display once the outcome of the plebiscite was announced.

    Steve Price and Andrew Bolt called it hypocritical.

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